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In Pt.2 of this powerful reasoning, Samuel Lee Fudge, star and co-writer of Mosiah, explains why Marcus Garvey made the controversial decision to meet with Ku Klux Klan leader Edward Young Clarke. He breaks down the political strategy behind the meeting, the conflict between the UNIA and the Klan, and what Garvey hoped to accomplish by speaking directly with one of his most dangerous opponents.

If you’ve only heard that Marcus Garvey supported or surrendered to the Ku Klux Klan, this conversation provides important historical context behind one of the most misunderstood decisions of his life.

In this episode:

- Why Marcus Garvey agreed to meet with a Ku Klux Klan leader
- The conflict between the UNIA and the Klan in the South
- What Garvey hoped to learn from the meeting
- Why understanding an opponent does not mean agreeing with them
- How the meeting affected Garvey’s reputation and legacy

Learn more about Samuel Lee Fudge and his work at:
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Dr. Joseph Farquharson, Senior Lecturer in the Department of Language, Linguistics & Philosophy at UWI Mona, joined us to discuss the growing trend of Jamaican children speaking with American or British accents. As some children struggle to speak Patois or sound unfamiliar when attempting to, we asked the language expert: Are we losing our Jamaican voice?

Broadcast date: August 21, 2026

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